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LABC slams government over approved inspectors

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  1. Given that Local Authority Inspectors have no responsibility to the building owner when approving a building that does not meet Building Regulations, perhaps it is time to hand all inspections over to the private sector who should be carrying PI insurance?

  2. once again are we ever going to learn in regarding these disasters, Ronan Point, Summerland, Lakanal, Grenfell, implementation recommendations by Dame Judith Hackitt to be ignored, Dame Judith Hackitt’s recommendation of a Joint Competent Authority (JCA), made up of LABC, fire and rescue authorities and the Health and Safety Executive will be dropped and other parts watered down. Will the government ever learn, whilst some poor sod will end up the scape goat for the next disaster waiting.

  3. this is typical of the government

  4. Surely the LABC cannot have too many compliants as Grenfell (the whole reason for the review) was an LABC project.

    The LABC are also severely understaffed with the retained staff being largely under qualified and ageing.

    It’s also worth noting that a large proportion of high rise buildings are Council owned which would be a conflict of interest.

  5. Completely one sided piece. Where are comments from CICAIR or ACAI? the Hackitt review and these reforms have stemmed from the terrible Grenfell incident but it was LABC that were overseeing the cladding works on this tower, not approved inspectors. How on earth have LABC been allowed to turn this important step change in regulations into a petty argument between the ‘honorable decent and honest’ LABC and the seemingly ‘unprofessional money hungry’ Approved Inspectors (most of which comprise ex.LA surveyors by the way! Also, from a realistic and practical point of view, how can a cash strapped LABC take on more high risk work when their staff are leaving to join the better paid, better performing approved inspector organisations?

  6. I think the time has come for the LABC to step out of their little bubble that they live in and see what’s really happening in local authority building control. Having worked in LA building control for over 20 years and having recently switched to the private sector I have to say that I was surprised at the professionalism and competency of my new company, it made me realise that my former LA building control employer were clearly years behind in the industry and I would be fearful of the consequences should they be asked to control a high risk building.
    So congratulations to the senior official who clearly recognisers where the expertise and competency lies.

  7. I have considerable experience with both LABC and approved inspectors. My personal opinion is approved inspectors want to get onto site, have a quick look round and get on to the next fee paying customer. LABC inspectors, interrogate the situation, provide more clarity with complex and potentially high risk solutions and make it easier to develop a collaborative working relationship in establishing compliance with regulatory standards. Grenfell is a poor example for citing a non LABC involvement. Grenfell was about a failed product, that was compliant. Using Grenfell as a big stick to hit LABC inspectors, is a convenient situation, that is being exploited by promoters of approved inspectors. This is yet another example of the race to the bottom within the UK Construction Industry. Be careful what you wish for.

  8. Wether or not you’re for LABC or AI’s it really shouldn’t matter. The fact is things need to change not just regards the implementation of the Building regulations but to the construction industry as a whole. There are far too many areas left unchecked. The time is coming where we need to work together and stop throwing mud at each other. Be it LABC or AI’s, time would better spent by coming together to tackle the issues that need addressing for the betterment of our industry.

  9. LABC should focus the Competency of their own teams. The private sector are independently audited and some Approved Inspectors have obtained ISO17020 as a measure of their quality and competence. Where are the professional standards and independent checking measures with the LABC?

    The outcome of BSF consultation should ultimately ensure that the right experience and quality team is used to Regulate a building. The experience of Complex buildings sits with a handful of Approved Inspectors. The rest cover domestic works and or warranty inspections for the housing market the same as LABC. It seems clear that the regulator that controls tall or complex buildings should be licensed to do do and be able to demonstrate independently audited competence. I can’t understand why LABC don’t just act in an enforcement capacity and focus on housing and domestic works within their borough?

    If they put as much effort into their quality as they do lobbying for total control of the BC system they might actually be able to deliver the kind of BC service that they crave and the industry demands.

  10. As someone who works for a warranty provider as an approved inspector I at times inspect buildings for warranty purposes while others provide BC.
    I am frequently appalled by what has been missed, misinterpreted or plain ignored by the LABC inspectors including 3 storey homes with no protected corridors, incorrect height or size of escape windows, inadequate handrails or staircase head height. Often they have given incorrect advice to the builder on how to achieve compliance! When challenged they almost always admit to having got it wrong. In my humble opinion going back to a single provider for BC would be a mistake.

  11. It is interesting to read comments both for and against the LABC, especially as in recent weeks several Approved / private inspector companies have ceased trading. Despite their credentials and registration by the CIC they have been unable to obtain relevant insurance to continue trading. This has resulted in many schemes having to be returned to Local Authorities and has left people without the valid applications they thought they had. Added to this many people are unable to get plans, inspection records and other details from their AI, which leaves them in a terrible position. We do not have a good system at all, which in my mind is the major issue with privatising any regulatory sysrem. How many other regulatory systems are open to private competition in the UK?

  12. Instead of having a dig at one another I think the most sensible approach is to work together to make the built environment safer. I feel both approved inspectors and local authority inspectors should continue to work on all building projects but on larger projects there should be an independent checking which could be private or government run who overlook the fire safety works.

    Its a great shame the outcome after Grenfell towers is finger pointing to try and resolve the matter, whereas there should be a review of how to make the whole planning and building control departments more effective and simpler.

  13. Having spent my whole working career on site, LA Building Control and different AI’s it’s safe to say I’ve seen many issues over the years. No person or body is perfect, a top professional still makes mistakes just considerably less common than others in training. There are lessons to be learned following the review but the first should be the review itself. Many others have commented on levelling the field for AI’s v’s LA’s – insurance and audit being common threads. 10 of my 30+ years in construction were for a council BC department never saw me externally audited, how’s that safe? Similarly in the private sector there are hundreds of schemes per year where I am the sole person from start to finish covering plan assessment, inspection and authorising issue of final paperwork – I feel we should insert pier review sampling into a code of conduct instead of just focusing on our trainees.

  14. Are we blind that we cannot see competition leading us to the bottom and those who oppose are blinded by greed? Many claim they are passionate about building safety and have the experience beyond Local Authority. Why not join Local Authority and take a lead role to raise the standard as one Regulator?

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