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Is Google planning a BIM-busting app for construction?

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  1. Absolute agreement with Peters summary.
    The cloud might offer useful capacity – but the actual problem is access to data when needed and in the form needed.
    Since most of the cost of building ownership is after handover, it is as much a data base problem as graphics.
    A database problem that delivers easy checks – and easy updates – for 50 (?) years.
    Google might be very good with new ideas – but this is a problem you have to experience to understand.

  2. We drive perfectly BIMprojects with google solution and BIM communications, drive, site,hangout,G+…
    All resourses are powered in google chrome and webgl.
    Keep up the good work using open source,

  3. Well…. it sounds great.

    It took Autodesk, what, I guess maybe $500M+ and 8-9 years to get Revit where it is now? I’m not holding my breath just yet.

  4. @greg
    not in every country. adesk’s aeco part is a mere few percent of the overall 2.21 billion bucks revenues, and the most part of it is autocad, not revit, when comes to bim. in many countries graphisoft’s archicad is the leader.
    btw, i expect more from trimble (2.0 billion revenues) with sketchup (maybe they buy archicad from nemetschek), because they have the know-how.

  5. NO – Google did not fail with Sketchup as the first comment suggests.
    Sketchup was aimed at the masses at no or low cost entry, a statement of future intent. Easy to use and it delivered the user presentation (up to incredibly high standards (user dependent)).
    No way would Google have positioned itself as a rival to the established CADs, they did not need to at the time. So why did Google sell off Sketchup to Trimble. 1. Because starting with a GUI application is not the way to start developing a cloud based, object data driven application (type in the data and let the tool draw the picture as opposed to draw the picture then hand craft the design spec). 2. Selling Sketchup got rid of this loss leader and provided the company with huge development capital to face the AEC requirement. 3) 5 years ago BIM ifc was a figment of many people’s imagination including, I suspect, Google. I know for a fact that many AEC controlling organisation did not even know of its future impact and some Universities were banned from teaching its principles and methods!! How stupid was that!!.
    Google will massively disrupt the CAD cosy clubs and the architectural worlds of privilege and intellectual property rights. Object shareware is already about plug and play objects a supplier driven by-product of product development and marketing. So buildings will become like cars – an assembly of parts with a choice of facades..
    The sooner that architects and designs adopt SCIENCE and drop ART the better….. because performance science is business not an intellectual achievement for which awards are too often wrongly given.
    High priced buildings designs are already unsustainable. Children will be able to design complex designs because rules based objects provide the technical robustness that humans designers and planners lack, so look out architects around the world, your socks are about to be rocked off.
    Finally about CADs
    It is highly unlikely that any of the established CAD solution providers are going to start again – like Google is – by transforming their applications architecture to be data driven rather than being facade driven. So I suspect we shall see bolt on systems architectures from these solution providers, similar to those that have plagued other commercial industries for decades. This means for CADS inter-operability will remain a figment of imagination for most architectural practices. (try integrating 4 computer applications seamlessly let alone 40 then wonder why design clashes, project overruns costs and deadlines spiral out of control… maybe they already are…all predictable).
    Again good for Google if they do it right. We could end up (will end up) with one single AEC cloud based, object library asset application available at low cost to ALL.
    For more about what we do visit oodles.uk.com (and yes I object design and build truly passive buildings with BIM common sense and ifc object definition compliance). [email protected]

  6. I think most of the comments come from people who do not deal in collaboration much… ANY software or system (cloud or not) that can collaborate information better than email is going to have a profoundly great effect of the construction industry. The inclusion of BIM would just bury everyone else out there. As for SketchUp – this is not really a construction industry tool – it is a generic modeler, much like AutoCad.

  7. @adam
    what is the point of your posting?

  8. You can’t derail a concept which is at the heart of BIM. When paired with IPD, BIM serves as the nexus for true collaboration.

    Google cloud based mindset presumes 100% availability at descent speed to not slow the process. This is a failed assumption.

  9. In short – “NO”.

    Google “failed” with Sketch-up because they didn’t understand the market. Sure, they have the funds to purchase the expertise, but did not do so.

    Cloud-computing technology as a whole is indeed the disruptive technology that will fundamentally alter/improve the AECOO sector. Far too much focus has been upon the 3D visualization component of BIM. This distraction has done little but create disillusionment. Collaboration, robust life-cycle management processes and efficient construction delivery methods (IPD, JOC, PPP), and supporting technologies are the path to success.

  10. Honestly I’d just like to see Autodesk release the glue app for Android. But if Google comes up with a way for me to utilize my Navisworks models on an Android tablet I’d be happy with that.

  11. Google’s initiative to dominate the VDC, BIM, IPD market globally lacks on one critical aspect, my expertise in the field. If I were to join this team and leverage Google’s cash, brains, and creative thinking the world would witness the displacement of Autodesk, the current world leader.

  12. The point Carlos ?

    That the real value is data – not pretty pictures.

    Get the data flowing correctly and Google will have solved the BIM problem in spades – but correctly means making it easy for Facilities Managers to operate their building for 50 years – the design/construction phase is brief, simple – and less costly all round.

    Pretty 3D models are great – if they act as Graphical User Interface’s did for Microsoft. Otherwise they are just a sales device.

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